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Bayou edition.Previous: >>23333300
>>23338691Sex
>>23338712I should add that I don't mean every single woman wants you to talk to her. Obviously not. Just that there are plenty women who do and will signal it to you through their welcoming body language and paying attention to your presence.
>>23338728>welcoming*Open body language Whatever I'm tired
Getting sad reading about extinction events. All those lovely innocent animals suffering, all their diversity and unique beauty lost. Will we meet them again in heaven?
>>23338745"The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together; and a little child will lead them. The cow will feed with the bear, their young will lie down together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox. The infant will play near the cobra’s den, and the young child will put its hand into the viper’s nest. They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain, for the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.”
The average person is unironically too low IQ to read the Bible. All the amount of parables, allegories, metaphors, and allusions are literally too high-brow for most Christians to comprehend the actual meanings within the scripture.
>>23338179It's just this older usage. As I demonstrated, til/until doesn't mean it will require something to happen, otherwise you'll be saying Christ's reign would end, among other illogical examples I referenced.It means that St. Joseph never "knew" or consummated the marriage.If you'll believe the traditions and teaching handed down by the Church and/or apocryphal documents like the Protoevangelium of James, Mary was a consecrated temple virgin and she was married to Joseph so that he could provide and protect her.As you can see here,>>23330797Jesus had no biological siblings through his mother. If you take every mention of Jesus having "brothers" or "brothers and sisters" as "biological," you'd be asserting that Mary had nearly 70 children in her life, which is simply foolish.The Gospel writers intended "brothers" in the way we use "brethren." Or, "my Brother in Christ," as it get thrown about.Other close relatives to Jesus could be called His "brothers," as the Jews lacked words for "cousin" and "nephew" at the time.While it is typical course for the consummation of marriage, as we know from the Law, husbands have the authority to uphold or revoke vows made by their wives on finding out of them. Joseph clearly would have known of Mary's virginity and vow, and did not revoke it, meaning it stays with no harm or foul
How true to the KJV is the NKJV?
what's /lit/ opinion on the apocrypha?
>>23338710Even if not divinely inspired, there still somewhat useful for understanding culture at the time and how that influences people.Of course, the deuterocanonicals aren't in the apocrypha list
>>23338659Here are some major translation differences between the KJV and the NKJV (1982) to consider:—"Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."- Matthew 7:14 KJV>"Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."- Matthew 7:14 NKJV ("narrow" in KJV changed to "difficult")—"Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again."- John 3:7 KJV>"Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’"- NKJV(The words thee/thou are singular while ye/you are plural, but NKJV doesn't make this distinction. This also affects the meaning or understanding of Luke 9:41, Luke 17:21 and Luke 22:31-32, because plural "ye" or "you" means something different than singular "thee" or "thou")Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Took an IQ test and I’m only 110. I’m basically a midwit consoomer destined to never create art. Is there any point in continuing to delve into literature despite knowing most of it will go over my head or should I just quit reading entirely? Now I know why I struggled so much in college with my degree and have trouble concentrating and learning new tasks at work. It sucks to be just smart enough to understand how dumb I am.
>>23338699They do that from time to time
>>23333993>110It’s over for you but you could still become a shift lead at your local McDonald’s or Taco Bell if you apply yourself.
>>23333993Higher than the average IQ of every country in the world. If you can't read literature, then who can?
>>23333993Instead of worrying about IQ, think about your motive for reading honestly. If you're just doing it because that's what you think high IQ people do, then maybe it's not for you.
you can probably get to 120 just by studying math
Post the best book you've ever read.
>>23337657Best book I’ve ever read has got to be this post from /tv/
A Canticle for Leibowitz
>>23338569Based on you calling Hitch a faggor in response to someone recommending Love, Poverty, and War, ai can say with some confidence that you're triggered/mindbroken/butthurt over.one of the following two things:-his support for the second Gulf war-his hatred for ChristianityI will bet a lot of money that it's the second one, and I will bet even more money that you haven't read Love, Poverty, and War. You just hate atheists and atheism.
>>23338755To guess he's a Christian with the list of authors he wrote...odd choice.
>>23338644I don't care about Faggot Sea Journeys nor Pervert Town Antics, sorry.
>be Plato>get sold into slavery>write stuff justifying slavery, eugenics, authoritarianism with philosophywhy was he like this?
>>23338721It was a different time.
>>23338733You expect le great philosophers to be more critical
>>23338721Pretty sure they're confused about something. Plutarch's Life of Dion reports Dionysius of Syracuse putting his lifebin the hands of a Spartan named Pollius who took him to be sold in Aegina, where tensions with Athens in the decade after Socrates died resulted in the Aegineans enslaving any Athenians who came their way. The fact that the researchers aren't confident whether it had to be before or after Socrates died suggests some uncertainty about what they're reading. It could also be that the author, Philodemus, is giving a different report or is himself mixed up on the timeline.
Hello frens, can you please tell me a good book on "bubble era Japan" (translated to the English)? Thanks you
>>23334754Idk, Princes of the Yen maybe?
>>23335078Not very much, sadly.
>>23337671>>23335078It’s not bad, the cost of groceries had gone up about 25% since 2019 alone so the 2014 is about average
>>23335078$20 wouldn't buy a full cart of grocery items even in 1998. A full-size cart (to feed a family) would be about $100.
>>23336797Food banks create poverty and if people are "exploiting" them that is a good thing. They prevent the most desperate people from speaking out about the actual problems like the price of food and con the masses into thinking something is being done about insane food prices. Food banks exchange spoiled crumbs for time. They are inefficient and disgusting. The people who legitimately "need" them are wholesale rendered unhealthy and stupid by them. Waste 4 hours of a prime chunk of a week day for $20 worth of food by waiting around. The whites of Canada deserve better than scraps in such a system that makes them waste prime parts of a day. You think you're revealing something but in reality you're the one that's being played by the media as engendering reactions such as yours work make people think non solutions (like food banks) to real problems like food cost are le good.
How do you decide on a reading list for the month and stick to it, especially when there's an overwhelming abundance of enticing books to choose from?
>>23336368this is literally how i make mine- also nice choices
I break my shit up into semesters. This semester my aims were to read some classic pulp, study Surrealist fiction, and brush up on some contemporary lit. On mother's day I move into the summer semester where I'll be reading like 4 tomes, 3 "classics" and one contemporary work (Tree of Smoke by Denis Johnson). In the fall I'll probably read through the major Greek tragedies.
>>23335148>all books from the same publisher >one is a different height from the restI h8 that $h!t
>>23337876nice collection anonwanna discord?
>>23338666It's not mine. I got it from Reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/Existentialism/comments/mwiatc/just_completed_my_kierkegaard_collection/
If Brahman has no object (external object not in dream, external object and internal object not in dreamless sleep) and no subject (not in dreamless sleep) how can the waking life of subject-object duality be engaged with upon actually attaining Brahman in the Fourth which is like dreamless sleep (in that it is without internal/external object and subject)So as I understand it if waking is like the top layer with external/internal object and a subject relating therewith, a layer beneath that is dream with internal object and a subject relating therewith, and behind that dreamless sleep which is without an external/internal object and without a subject, so then Brahman the Fourth is like the core which pervades all three, and is all that endures. >So it seems there is a discontinuity between Brahman and engaging in waking life, if thinking about Dreamless sleep is anything to go by, or states of unconsciousness which fit the criteria as nondual? How could such a person interact with the world which presents the brute fact of an external object (not to mention the body itself being one) whether we like it or not? So how does right perception operate in one who is in something like a dreamless sleep, yet going about in the world?If the Fourth and dreamless sleep are only distinguished by misperception being absent from the formed yet present in the latterThis "Right Perception" seems to have to operate simultaneously with the Nondual Awareness, and if so we would be able to discuss it since people who have realized Brahman have been in the world and described that they have realized it.Please people who know, elucidate upon this matter so I don't fall for "alternative hypotheses" like some innate embodied intelligence called "kundalini" taking the role of Right perception for a person who has realized the Fourth, or some power described like "Vimarsha shakti"Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>23337468Thanks for sharing, it's not high on my to-do list and I have other things to do today but I bookmarked those links and I may check their contents out at a later time.
>>23337425If you read those writings by Erwin hessle specifically True Will, Method of Love, Kabs and Khu, Let there be no difference be made, I think you will get it straight awayI think it is fundamentally traditional. I have also traced a couple strands of modern though specifically "anxiety" literature it has a lot in common with advaita, in some books about recovery they suppose that a person should shift to what they call "metacognitive awareness," and they give a practical rundown on this, yet they don't take a dualistic observer approach like shankya, they encourage you to accept emotions and so on, that's the only way the negative symptoms like anxiety go away it seems, Interesting to he honest this parralel I am seeing, for example even anxiety symptoms "churning stomach" "heart palpitations," etc. What goes on in the nervous system seems to parralel some esoteric systems, and it seems "anxiety" is just the other side of "ecstasy" or "excitement," it seems to be the same mechanism underlying some spiritual experiences, the anxiety recovery books specifically by people like Dr. Claire weekes even approve religion, it seems faith can also cure and sublimate anxiety. For example a technique they use is discriminating between "first fear" and second fear, which corresponds to "what is," and "what if" I think these modern psychological systems are actually catching up to the phenomenology of advaita
>>23337012>So how does right perception operate in one who is in something like a dreamless sleep, yet going about in the world?>If the Fourth and dreamless sleep are only distinguished by misperception being absent from the formed yet present in the latterThe state of dreamless sleep (likened to the natural state of consciousness of the causal body or a higher/subtler ‘sheath’/kosha of the Self in other formulations, as dreaming is for the subtle body and waking life is the standard consciousness for the gross body) is LIKENED to turiya samadhi, the fourth state-of-consciousness, or conscious unity with Brahman. Namely because all anxieties and troubles fade away in the state of deep sleep. However, I do not believe it is IDENTICAL with it. There is still a conscious lively awareness possible in the state of turiya samadhi, clearly distinguishing it from the blank voidness of dreamless deep sleep. As another poster intelligently explained, it doesn’t literally ‘wipe out’ one’s conscious awareness and sense-perceptions, we continue to have those so long as incarnate in a healthy living physical body.>>23337124>>23337162>>23337194Yes, you’re bringing up a known distinction between Tantric paths and more ascetic Vedantic paths. Some of the Tantric paths or overlapping schools like Shaiva-Shakta traditions (like Kashmir Shaivism) seem to hold that one can experience the equivalent of what’s variously called Moksha, Turiya Samadhi, realization of the Self or Pratyabhijna, “re-cognition” of the Self as it’s also called in Kashmir Shaivism, in a life as a ‘householder.’ This does not necessarily mean wild hedonism and excess bringing harm to oneself and others (that aspect of Tantra — that it sometimes allows for or makes rituals/teachings around sense-pleasures and their possible utility on the path — is sometimes grossly exaggerated). Basically, while having a career, seeking wealth, having sex-partners, etc. It’s like taking these gross pleasures (not gross as in disgusting, but physical/material) as something like little mirrors off which transcendental bliss is being reflected, as well as bringing Divinity even into the physical body and its doings. >>23337194>There is probably some validity in describing the Self to also consist of "Pure Action," this "Pure action" aspect when said actually makes it clear that we can speak of "vimarsha-shaktis" or "innate intelligence," will, and so on.Right, that’s Kriya-Shakti, one of the three aspects of the Divine in yogic philosophy, with Iccha-Shakti and Jnana-Shakti. Shakti = roughly Power, or Intelligent Energy. Kriya = Action, Doing. Iccha = Will, Willpower, Desire. Jnana = Knowledge. So Action-Power, Will-Power (neat overlap in translation), and Knowledge-Power.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>23337629There is a book I want to point attention to, God-Realization through Reason, he explains that samadhi (which yogis experience) and sushupti are actually identical, only samadhi is like the Active form for in that the yogi has a controlled mind going in and out, ordinary people go through samadhi Everyday in the form of sushupti in a way, but a fool who goes to sleep comes out a fool, he says why then are we not all liberated? Because the ordinary person cannot employ reason in relation to the deep sleep, to reach the reasons limit and end - the beginning of wisdom which is the realization of the self but essentially Sushupti or Moksha (the fourth) are the sameHow we go through that experience yet still experience the reemergence of the world, after experiencing dissolution in deep sleep, is the reason it's called casual, because it seems like deep sleep is like the seed of the other two states. Or this is what is invoked to better explain how the world undergoeth dissolution and remergence time and time again, and even in dissolution there seems to be regulation of that. So that's why its as if c turiya is made distinct, the author makes clear that other systems which take it "firther" and say well there's turiya and then turiyitta fall into the fallacy of an infinite regress, and then elaborate on the notion of this bija shakti, miss the point and fall short. Still that this casual seed is logically invoked such that deep sleep is distinct from turiya samadhi, I think shankara calls it bija shakti doesnt change the concrete perception of nonduality during deep sleep, therefore deep sleep is rightly the experience of moksha I think in the upanishads it is called such at times. The problem lies in this "likening" to, it invokes similarity and comparison, and divides what is all and equal, so I see it as pointless to talk about a "turiya samadhi" distinct from deep sleep, because turiya samadhi opposed to deep sleep does not come into experience and counters the method of reasoning, it is abstract and therefore not concrete.
>>23337629I think Recognition or Pratyabhijna is probably the right word for what I am terming Right Perception, I think the Recognition philosophy with it's explanation of pedgagocial techniques like the twelve Kalis, the three Malas, five Kanchukas, and the Seven perceivers is apt,Though I think one can only go so far so in his recognition of the absolute being the performer and experient of the five acts That one is to through them recognize oneself as the center of the wheel of the twelve, free of the malas, and armours, as shiva which freely ascends and descends the seven perceivers, I think this has some value. It's probably as far as one can go with systematization.When it says the self is an agent and possesed of power, will, autonomy and so on, it obviously does not mean the limited agent which is the mind in an ordinary sense.
/pg/ - Poetry GeneralPost poetry, your own or otherwise, and discuss. Critique and discussion constantly in dire supply. If you're looking for critique, consider giving details on what exactly you're wishing to improve in the work(s).
>>23313223This is good, but I have to agree with the other anon that commented. The imagery seems just a bit off.
>>23312488Poem 1 has some cutesy to it. That stuff gets me, and lovey-style stuff has a tendency to be cheesy.You were accurate that you made sacrifices that weakened it.If this is strictly an iambic tetrameter challenge, then fine. But, for non,challenges, so long as you establish your intended meter, you can break from the the predominant style a few times so long as it still flows and/or accentuates a particular image/idea
>>23314626This is strong. It needs a bit of tweaking maybe, but it's close to being something you could stand on. I really like the concept and the method of execution.
>>23315035I wish this felt a little more contemporary, but it's good and I love the heart behind it.
>>23322033You love blacks, you just don't knowA based post! White as snow—Typed by black hands THOUGH!
Fess up, who are some Booktubers that you watch as a guilty pleasure?
>>23338050>>23338057>forgetting women who are fulfilled by having and raising their children
>>23338384I haven't forgotten at all; in fact, I essentially implied as much here >>23338087 but you're over simplifying. They often are not fulfilled by having children. You should listen to this short story I recently listened to, by a woman whose writing I've found very good in the past, but this particular story is awful. However, women find it profound and reflective of them. Tessa Hadley's The Math Tutor. And to anyone who would try and defend it and say that it's good, before you do, imagine the equivalent story with the genders and tropes flipped and written by a man. If you could still produce an argument for it's being good, I'd be interested to hear why.
>>23333580He's got pure Anglo physiognomy.
>>23333038for me, it's the bookchemist
My fav.
Grassy Monday Ruins edition>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/guIyhAzS>Archivehttps://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreadshttps://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffgPrevious: >>23324486
>>23335672Does this plot make sense>A king wants to eliminate a powerful family>The family is led by an idiot>The King convinces the Idiot to become a general and sends him to invade>The King hopes the, the Idiot will suffer a major defeat>When the Idiot loses his army, he has two options, either bankrupt his family by rebuilding the army, or face a court marshal where he is deprived of all his lands
>>23338552Is this series done yet? I read the first two books and enjoyed them. But want to wait until the series is done to continue
>>23338305>last book ends with 2 mysterious new villains talkingThis alone makes me wanna read books 5 and 6 but the ending of 4 made me sad. Should I?
>>23335678I hate him so much bros. My friend got me into reading Mistborn era 2, and how can a book be so cool and so sauceless at the same time? The entire books is nothing but points where I go "that's sick", but I left with no actual investment in the characters or plot.
>>23338729>sauceless
Help me understand ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-DEpiQMhZ8
What, no shelf thread? This is the one in my bedroom.
>>23338381My gf mogs your gf (there's more in the bedroom)
>>23338407Damn. Can we trade? Mine switched to kindle
The bookshelf at the head of my bed, aka my "favourites" shelf.
>>23338306>socialist>steinbeckUnsure if underage or retarded, but definitely will pretend it was bait.
>>23338381>>23338407My wife mogs both of yours, but I'm not going to post a picture of her shelves.
>Asian American diaspora female literature This. This is the distillation of every bad trope in modern fiction made manifest.
>>23338626>knew that it wasn't true in this particular instanceSomebody probably put up a pic of the kid ten years earlier or it's not the same son but his younger brother.
>>23338616You should just read Three Kingdoms. Things will get better.
>>23338161That’s wrong, gen z girls go wild for k pop guys
>>23338483This anon literally wrote a book on this subject. https://www.amazon.com/Beautiful-Kingdom-K-K-Wing/dp/B0BTRTBP5H?dplnkId=029d5803-7349-4b21-beb4-da3b36c53e9f
>>23338662they go wild for kpop guys who wear makeup and have had an ungodly amount of surgery and have money (attractive) and confidencethey don't like Xing who is scrawny, insecure, autistic, nerdy and gets bullied
